Curse

-Relics- · Dec 23, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Hey guys I am new to Guild Wars and I was cruising the forums and noticed that the Dervish relies heavily on it's own attributes....

However what if the Dervish gave up the Mysticism attribute and picked up the Curse line and include say.... [Spiteful Spirit] and [Mark of Pain] and even [Insidious Parasite]

I am not too familiar to the Dervish builds so please forgive me if this idea is incredibly stupid.....

Icy The Mage · Dec 23, 2008, 04:59 AM // 04:59

You have heroes for that exact purpose. Use them.

-Relics- · Dec 23, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Eh, I am sorry but I have no idea what a hero is....

like I said I am getting GW for Xmas.

Darkside · Dec 23, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Dervish is a melee character if you wanna run those skills i would suggest you make a necromancer.

MegaVolti · Dec 23, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by -Relics-

Eh, I am sorry but I have no idea what a hero is....

like I said I am getting GW for Xmas.

You can take NPCs with you. There are NPCs in each town with whatever build they have but you can also take hero NPCs with you which you can customize.
So just taking a Necromancer hero and letting that hero cast the spells is much more efficient then using them on your Dervish.

Why make a Dervish if you don't want to use Mysticism? For damage with scythes, Assassins are better. Mysticism is what makes a Dervish special

GW is a little different then other MMOs. You always go out in a team, usually a party of 8. This can be one player and 7 NPCs or 8 players or anything in between. So it is generally a bad idea to try to be a jack of all trades since you will be able to have specialized party members that can do the job much better.

Chthon · Dec 23, 2008, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Best thing I've seen for D/N goes something like this:

[contagion][dark aura][wearying strike][foul feast][plague touch]

mistokibbles · Dec 23, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

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Originally Posted by Chthon

Best thing I've seen for D/N goes something like this:

[contagion][dark aura][wearying strike][foul feast][plague touch]

that's still really bad though XD. enfeebling blood does most of that anyway o.O and what's the point to plague touch if you have contagion?

on topic: just look on pvxwiki for some dervish builds. things like [ebon dust aura] and [reaper's sweep] are great in pve

Sirius-NZ · Dec 23, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Firstly, welcome to GW. You're a little late to the game, but at least in PvE, that's not going to hurt you much.

If you're getting Nightfall - which you would have to to be using a Dervish - you'll be getting the ability to use heroes as well. You can set these up as you would your own character, which gives some nice flexibility. Necromancers with skills from the Curses line are used quite a bit for this - they're fairly effective and gain energy when you kill things, which should happen a fair bit.

But you don't really want to use a Dervish as a spellcaster (excluding buff spells you cast on yourself, for the most part, anyway). It isn't meant for it, lacks a primary attribute that helps spellcasting and also lacks enough energy to do a decent job of it. Generally what you'll be doing is stacking damage boost enchantments on yourself - and, if it's your taste, perhaps some defensive enchantments - and hacking away with your scythe. That's where the Dervish generally shines; doing heavy DPS to small groups of enemies, which happens enough to be worth taking one.

Luminarus · Dec 23, 2008, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Theres a good D/N build, arcane orders or something like that. Althought its better on a hero. Cant remember it, but its definately up on pvxwiki.com

MrGuildBoi · Dec 23, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/...Orders_Dervish

MegaVolti · Dec 23, 2008, 08:11 AM // 08:11

You let heroes play orders support. It's just soo boring for players

And as a player, I'd prefer having a Necro or Ele for orders ([[Ether Renewal] beats [[Arcane Zeal]).

turbo234 · Dec 23, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51

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Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/...Orders_Dervish

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distilledwill · Dec 23, 2008, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/...Orders_Dervish

This is mostly a Hero build, and wouldnt be too useful for a PvE player to use.

I would suggest sticking to a scythe for a dervish and if you do want to use curses then make a Necromancer.

You seem to be fairly knowledgable about the game as you know about elite skills and such so I'm going to suggest a couple of good PvE builds, hopefully you'll be able to find the elites you need.

[Wounding Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Aura of Holy Might][Heart of Fury][Faithful Intervention][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Reaper's Sweep][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Aura of Holy Might][Heart of Fury][Faithful Intervention][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Wearying Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Heart of Fury][Aura of Holy Might][Eternal Aura][Avatar Of Melandru][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Eremite's Attack][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Heart of Fury][Aura of Holy Might][Eternal Aura][Avatar Of Grenth][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

MegaVolti · Dec 23, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Those builds are quite intense on energy. Which is fine, as long as a hero with the above necro build (orders support) is present. As Dervish you gain energy whenever an enchantments ends on you, so the orders support gives you lots and lots since 2 enchantments will end every 5 seconds. Another nice thing to do is let a Monk hero carry [[Patient Spirit], which will also charge your energy pool (and provide good healing of cause).
Just something to keep in mind

Painbringer · Dec 23, 2008, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Use a crippling skill and then [Virulence]

Chthon · Dec 24, 2008, 06:08 AM // 06:08

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Originally Posted by mistokibbles

that's still really bad though XD. enfeebling blood does most of that anyway o.O and what's the point to plague touch if you have contagion?

I get the impression that you may not understand how contagion works...

Contagion doesn't clear conditions from you, just spreads them to foes. The point of plague touch is to clear the conditions off of you so that you can carry on dealing damage.

Improvavel · Dec 25, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

This is mostly a Hero build, and wouldnt be too useful for a PvE player to use.

I would suggest sticking to a scythe for a dervish and if you do want to use curses then make a Necromancer.

You seem to be fairly knowledgable about the game as you know about elite skills and such so I'm going to suggest a couple of good PvE builds, hopefully you'll be able to find the elites you need.

[Wounding Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Aura of Holy Might][Heart of Fury][Faithful Intervention][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Reaper's Sweep][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Aura of Holy Might][Heart of Fury][Faithful Intervention][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Wearying Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Heart of Fury][Aura of Holy Might][Eternal Aura][Avatar Of Melandru][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Eremite's Attack][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Heart of Fury][Aura of Holy Might][Eternal Aura][Avatar Of Grenth][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

I would rather use a zealous scythe or [[attacker's insight] @ wind prayers 3+1 for emag over lyssa. And [[Victorious Sweep] is quite sexy in PvE.

Bobby2 · Dec 25, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

[Wearying Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Heart of Fury][Aura of Holy Might][Eternal Aura][Avatar Of Melandru][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

PvE easy mode

Drop rez for [foul feast], maybe [rip enchantment] in areas that warrant it

Bobby2 · Dec 26, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

1: That wouldn't be a D/N

2: /Mo offers no leet utility

Scythe O F Glory · Dec 27, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

[Wounding Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Aura of Holy Might][Heart of Fury][Faithful Intervention][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Reaper's Sweep][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Lyssa's Assault][Aura of Holy Might][Heart of Fury][Faithful Intervention][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Wearying Strike][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Heart of Fury][Aura of Holy Might][Eternal Aura][Avatar Of Melandru][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

[Eremite's Attack][Mystic Sweep][Chilling Victory][Heart of Fury][Aura of Holy Might][Eternal Aura][Avatar Of Grenth][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

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